The Army of God
Speaks Out

Chapter 8

An interview with an underground leader of the American Holocaust Resistance Movement - also known as the A.O.G.

"Only he who cries out for the Jews can sing Gregorian Chants."
- Deitrich Bonnhoeffer

"Annihilating abortuaries is our purest form of worship."
- Freedom Fox, A.O.G.

The interview on the following pages is not for everyone.

Only those who are Pro-Life, as opposed to those who talk or, maybe think, Pro-Life, need bother turning another page. Those individuals who have not been able to sit silently while the carnage continues may profit from this interview. Those who have yet to fight in the streets for the lives of the little ones will be even less likely to help after reading an interview like this.

Why? Simply stated, the answers and tactics discussed in the following pages will sound terrifying at best, and demonic at worst, to anyone who has not been in great agony of soul over the past years regarding the slaughter of the children - enough agony to council women out of committing abortion; enough agony to lose jobs, homes, families, and freedom. This is how it is: if you are not already a street fighting activist, do not waste your time on the interview because you are not ready to read what is written there.

The Mad Gluer Interviews The ARMY OF GOD

M.G.: Why an interview, and why now?

A.O.G.: You asked for one, I know I can trust you, and I can't do it alone.

M.G.: Can't do what alone?

A.O.G.: Drive the abortion industry underground with or without the sanction of government law.

M.G.: By what method?

A.O.G.: Explosives, predominantly.

M.G.: Would you care to elaborate?

A.O.G.: Certainly. First by disarming the murder weapons. That is, by destroying the structures where the actual crimes are being committed. Second, by disarming the persons perpetrating the crimes by removing their hands, or at least their thumbs below the second digit.

M.G. What about non-violence? The Rescuers, most of them anyway, would say ...

A.O.G. I love the Rescuers. I am not truly violent by causing my neighbor no longer to be able to murder innocent citizens.

M.G.: What about the image this type of activity would portray to the world through the eyes of the media?

A.O.G.: The image that the world entertains at this moment is that there are no Christians in America whatsoever. With the exception, maybe, of Joan Andrews and a few others.

No, don't misunderstand me! The only rational way to respond to the knowledge of an imminent and brutal murder is direct action.

M.G.: Is a Rescue Mission (a sit-in) direct action?

A.O.G.: Most definitely.

M.G.: Then, why bombs and shears?

A.O.G.: If the child scheduled for execution was your very own, would you feel that you had responded adequately by merely sitting in front of the doors? No!
Don't misunderstand me. Rescue is a very powerful thing - becoming vulnerable, totally; taking on the life of the pre-born in all his weakness. Nevertheless, I ask you what would you do if your very own child was scheduled for execution in the morning? One - blow the place to kingdom come (or burn it to the ground) tonight, and be there with all the guns and ammunition in the morning just in case they might plan on taking your baby to some other location to commit the abortion.

M.G.: I understand what you are saying, but nobody can live like that.

A.O.G.: That's the point. We must die in order that others might live.

M.G.: But why don't you believe that non-violence, on the order of - say - Gandhi or Martin Luther King, Jr., or the ultimate example of Our Lord, might not be the key to winning the war?

A.O.G.: Jesus Christ was never a pacifist except in His role as the Suffering Servant. As for Gandhi and Martin Luther King, Jr., non-violence was only a tactic. King stated publicly on several occasions that they would resolve the "conflict" with non-violence or with violence. But, let me say something about your use of that extremely loaded word, "non-violence."

M.G.: Please do.

A.O.G.: An officer of the law, commonly referred to as a "cop" or "policeman is in traditional society known as a  "peace officer," correct?

M.G.: Yes.

A.O.G.: By what means does the Peace Officer keep the peace?
By means of minimum force. And in some situations, minimum force can go so far as to require that a person be shot: no trial, no jury, no stay of execution. In most cases this is not true - in many cases a billy club followed by a little jail time might do. The Peace Officer did not cease to be a defender of the peace by doing these things - on the contrary!

Oh, by the way, don't construe this to mean I recommend executing abortionists. I do not. Although I think it easily justified from Holy Writ, the A.O.G. Adheres to the principle of minimum force. Mercy, rather than justice is the driving force behind our actions. Or, to say it another way, we are merciful in our pursuit of justice, in our pursuit of peace.

M.G.: Wouldn't such actions against an abortionist harder their hearts toward God even more than it already is?

A.O.G.: Quite the opposite. The average abortionist has become so used to the daily carnage he or she commits, it is on the order of flushing a commode. By permanently removing their ability to commit the crimes, one has given them a tremendous gift. Only by being forced to back away from the life that they now live can they ever begin to see themselves as they truly are. Thank God for the few brave ones that have repented of their crimes. For the rest, I think thumblessness a small price to pay. "...better to enter into life maimed..." (I finally found a present-day application for those words).

M.G.: Do you think that these types of activities will have a negative effect on the other wings of the Pro-Life movement?

A.O.G.: Activity that attempts to protect women and children is positive. Period. Inactivity is negative. To tell you the truth, I'm not really sure what the "Pro-Life
Movement" is! If your question was in regard to public opinion as influenced by the media, I would have to say that, contrary to popular opinion, it is easy at this time for the media as a whole to hold the position that they do: they can comfortably be for death.

Not so when the honorable citizens of any given community begin to rise up in righteous indignation and destroy these miniature Dachaus. All of a sudden, apathy is gone. The average reporter says to himself, "wow Maybe there are a few people that really believe all this jargon about abortion being murder."

M.G.: What do you recommend that concerned citizens do at this time?

A.O.G.: Every Pro-Life person should commit to destroying at least one death camp, or disarming at least one baby killer. The former is a relatively easy task - the latter could be quite difficult to accomplish. The preferred method for the novice would be gasoline and matches.

Straight and easy. No tracks. You've kind of got to pour and light and leave real fast because of the flammability factor. Kerosene is great, but a little more traceable, so you will not want to buy it and  use it in the same day.

M.G.: What about explosives?

A.O.G.: With time delays, a most wondrous method, and my personal favorite.

M.G.: For the average person?

A.O.G.: Yes assuming that a person is willing to do a little reading to understand the basics. A person should be careful about reading books from a public library and then going out and doing major "good deeds".

The Federal agents will be looking at fingerprints - there's no reason to put them on to the scent any faster than necessary. Then again, if a person is only going to take out a few mills on a one time basis, then there is really not much to worry about.

M.G.: What about chemical warfare?

A.O.G.: I think that should remain classified information at this time.

M.G.: O.K. Do you have any special heroes who give
you inspiration ?

A.O.G.: Well, there are many heroes of the Faith throughout history, but one of my personal favorites is Major Von Gersdorf.

M.G.: Who worked with Bonhoeffer, right?

A.O.G.: Yes. He was the guy who always wore a trench coat - a loaded trench coat. Once, when the Resistance was planning a Putch, Von Gersdorf had bombs, one in each pocket, that he was going to detonate in Hitler's presence.

There is one vivid scene I recall reading about, where Bonhoeffer and friends were all sitting around a room practicing the piano and singing, in preparation for Bonhoeffer's father's seventy-fifth birthday. Major Von Gersdorf was sitting around trying not to be nervous, but, well, they were all looking at the phone nervously, knowing that any second it would ring, and that he would have to drive to the munitions factory where Hitler was going to be doing an inspection, or something.

Von Gersdorf was not going to take any chances of having a dud bomb, so he took two, one in each pocket - he was going to blow himself to kingdom come (and Hitler, too, in the process). As it turned out, it never happened. But he had the heart at least to attempt it.

M.G.: That's quite a story. I think that here must be some  Army of God persons who have that kind of resolve and commitment.

A.O.G.: There are some. most certainly. The babies are just so precious, I can't fathom any commitment less than
"resistance unto death", to use the biblical imagery.

M.G.: How many of the A.O.G. are currently in prison? Wait, I think I already know you will not be able to answer that question, right?

A.O.G.: (laughter) Sorry, I will say this, however. Most of the people who have or are now serving time for destroying abortuaries are not enlisted with the A.O.G., but in most cases that's only because they were never given an opportunity to do so. (I wish some of them had - they might still be free).

M.G.: How does one become a member of the Army of God?

A.O.G.: With great difficulty.

M.G.: Would you care to elaborate?

A.O.G.: No. Not in an interview. My main goal in this interview is to encourage others to take certain actions at certain times in solidarity with the resistance effort. In other words, when the mills begin to smoke, add some fuel to the fire. We desperately need single lone-rangers out there, who will commit to destroy one abortuary before they die. Most genuine Pro-Lifers praise and worship God when an abortuary is destroyed. It matters little what stripe of activist you are talking about. Rescuers, political activists, or covert operators are all thankful. And it's common knowledge what the insurance costs are like after a good bombing.


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Hebrews 12:29
For our God is a consuming fire.

Psalm 3:3
But thou, O Lord, art a shield for me; my glory, and the lifter up of mine head.

Numbers 35:33
So ye shall not pollute the land wherein ye are:
for blood it defileth the land: and the land cannot be cleansed of the blood that is shed therein, but by the blood of him that shed it.

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